Enjoy the discussion. Try to bring a few terms from a gothic mini lessons here and there, and remember to use CAPITALIZATION. People who don't capitalize end up like Emily Grierson. Yes, they do.
Kristina- Nicole and I were thinking that the bought poison to kill Homer so that he couldn't leave her. And she probabaly wanted arsenic because it works the best.
catherine I don't think that he died naturally, I think that she poisoned him with the arsenic. I think that this might be the reason why her house smelled, because she had a dead body and it was starting to stink.
rachels- I agree with you on the suicide thing, and her servent really seemed to care for her, so that would make sense. I dont know it is so hard to tell which it would be for, killing homer or suicide, to me like Kat, suicide makes alot of sense
Brennan- I always think of two things when I see roses. I think of like bright roses as love and darker roses are like the kind of flowers you see at funerals. And this is a love story and its a Gothic murder story.
Kristinah - I hadn't thought about Homer's murder before, but I think that theory makes a little more sense. I really agree with what Nicole was saying about it in the inner circle.
Who do you think the narrator is? They knew extensively about all the events related to Miss Emily - who would be telling this story?
kristina- i cant really find a specific point in the story, so she could have used it for another reason. I just thought that was why becuase she seemed so desperate for it and that part stood out in the story, and the fact that he is dead became the main part of the story
brennal- I am not sure why it was called a Rose for Emily. In the last page they talk about the faded rose colors. Maybe it relates to how they were going to get married?
leslie- I think that her servant could have been her soul but personally, according to what kind of person she was, i think her soul would still be more vivatious and alive and her body just old and tired on the outside and stuff on the outside holding her back from who she is, like going along with not wanting the "poor emily" thing
Maddison- I agree. I honestly thought that the last line was so cute where there were talking about how the saw a indentation of a head and a grey hair next to his body. I just imagine her holding him as he died, and then locking that part of her heart away with Homer's body.
kelseyl- I think that her servant did know about Homer's decomposing body, but he didn't do or tell anyone about it because, like everyone else, he felt sorry for her.
Leslie- Haha, she tried to kill herself with it but was unsuccessful because Helena Bonham Carter's character stopped her and she went crazy from not having anyone to love and the post traumtic stress from being raped.
I don't think the servant was removed enough from Emily to feel sorry for her. It sounded like he was with her all the time, so maybe he didn't tell anyone about Homer's death because he really empathized with her and understood why she needed Homer's death.
Kristina- I saw Colonel Sortoris more as a narrator because he had died and was a topic of one of the opening paragraphs. He was also one of the few who actually gave her a break because of pitious guilt.
Cat- I personally did not like the two cousins. I thought they were confusing and I am not sure why they were in the story. What significance do you think the quote "we were really gald because the two female cousins were even more Grierson than Miss Emily had ever been" has?
catherinec- that is a good point I forgot about him but how would he have as much insight and this narrator does and why does he refer to it as "we" all the time
maddison- I think the two cousins were like Mrs. Hutchinson from "The Lottery". It was almost like both authors purposely made those characters annoying.
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Hey guys I was just wondering who did she poison with the poison she bought? and why was she so determined to have arsnic?
kristina- i think that was how she killed her boyfriend
She probably poisoned her boyfriend.
kristinah
I think that she poisoned Homer.
Kristinah thats a great point. I assumed she would commit suicide - do you think her servant maybe prevented her from it?
Kristina- Nicole and I were thinking that the bought poison to kill Homer so that he couldn't leave her. And she probabaly wanted arsenic because it works the best.
brennanl- just wondering... why do you think it was used for that? Like were there any parts in the story that hinted that?
Did anyone wonder if her man servent could've been her soul?
catherine
I don't think that he died naturally, I think that she poisoned him with the arsenic. I think that this might be the reason why her house smelled, because she had a dead body and it was starting to stink.
I saw it a little differently. I thought Homer had died in her sleep and she was so depressed that she was thinking about suicide.
why is it called a rose for emily? there werent any literal roses in the story, so what could that represent?
About the poison thing, I think that she poisoned her boyfriend so that he could never run away from her. So that she could be with him "forever"
rachels- I agree with you on the suicide thing, and her servent really seemed to care for her, so that would make sense. I dont know it is so hard to tell which it would be for, killing homer or suicide, to me like Kat, suicide makes alot of sense
What do you think the relationship between her servant was like?
Brennan- I always think of two things when I see roses. I think of like bright roses as love and darker roses are like the kind of flowers you see at funerals. And this is a love story and its a Gothic murder story.
Do you think that her servant knew about what she was doing and that she had killed Homer?
MADDIE!
Didn't Sweeny Todd's wife get poisoned by arsenic and went crazy?
Why didn't her servant tell the authorities about the death of her husband?
Kristinah - I hadn't thought about Homer's murder before, but I think that theory makes a little more sense. I really agree with what Nicole was saying about it in the inner circle.
Who do you think the narrator is? They knew extensively about all the events related to Miss Emily - who would be telling this story?
kristina-
i cant really find a specific point in the story, so she could have used it for another reason. I just thought that was why becuase she seemed so desperate for it and that part stood out in the story, and the fact that he is dead became the main part of the story
brennal-
I am not sure why it was called a Rose for Emily. In the last page they talk about the faded rose colors. Maybe it relates to how they were going to get married?
leslie- I think that her servant could have been her soul but personally, according to what kind of person she was, i think her soul would still be more vivatious and alive and her body just old and tired on the outside and stuff on the outside holding her back from who she is, like going along with not wanting the "poor emily" thing
What does the rose represent?
Maddison- I agree. I honestly thought that the last line was so cute where there were talking about how the saw a indentation of a head and a grey hair next to his body. I just imagine her holding him as he died, and then locking that part of her heart away with Homer's body.
kelseyl- I think that her servant did know about Homer's decomposing body, but he didn't do or tell anyone about it because, like everyone else, he felt sorry for her.
maddie-
so do you think that the rose represents the theme of death in her life?
Rachel
Maybe the narrator could be the servant, because we don't really know what happens to him afterward.
Thanks guys :-)
Leslie- Haha, she tried to kill herself with it but was unsuccessful because Helena Bonham Carter's character stopped her and she went crazy from not having anyone to love and the post traumtic stress from being raped.
I'm starting to see a pattern about the main characters in Gothic stories. I think that their fear of change leads to the downfall of the character/s.
Why do you think that the author included the part of the two cousins?
cate
Another thing that I noticed was her isolation from the town and isolation is another big theme in Gothic stories
maybe it was the servant that was the narrator because to me he seemed like the kind of guy that heard everything and knew most things going on!!!!!
I don't think the servant was removed enough from Emily to feel sorry for her. It sounded like he was with her all the time, so maybe he didn't tell anyone about Homer's death because he really empathized with her and understood why she needed Homer's death.
Brennan- Yes, but I always think it represents her love for those who died.
Bren- I meant to say "I also think..."
Kristina- I saw Colonel Sortoris more as a narrator because he had died and was a topic of one of the opening paragraphs. He was also one of the few who actually gave her a break because of pitious guilt.
I have a question: what do you think this story is saying about human nature?
Cat-
I personally did not like the two cousins. I thought they were confusing and I am not sure why they were in the story. What significance do you think the quote "we were really gald because the two female cousins were even more Grierson than Miss Emily had ever been" has?
yeah thats what i thought you meant
catherinec- that is a good point I forgot about him but how would he have as much insight and this narrator does and why does he refer to it as "we" all the time
Does anyone else see that idea of repression in this story?
Emily locked up Homer's body and repressed her feelings of grief by not talking to anyone in town.
maddison- I think the two cousins were like Mrs. Hutchinson from "The Lottery". It was almost like both authors purposely made those characters annoying.
Everyone talking about the rose~ I kind of see the rose as a good and a bad thing, with the pretty petals and the sharp thorns.
I think that it is the fault of the druggist for the death because he failed to know what the poison was for.
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